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Post by Jupiter on Jul 11, 2015 12:39:51 GMT
Should native born African Americans be on the side of illegal immigrants, or immigrants in general, or should U.S. born citizens, with African ancestry, be on the side of Donald Trump?
How do immigrants, illegal or not, generally treat the native born African American community?
Much more to follow as time allows.
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Post by Jupiter on Jul 12, 2015 12:30:49 GMT
The message of Donald Trump appeals to more native born blacks than establishment, DC, Democrats may want to realize Of all people, lower working class, or 'hood' class blacks hear, can relate, to what Donald Trump is saying more than what establishment or DC elected Democrats may want to realize. Impoverished poor or low wage working class blacks have always been the first to feel the impact of immigration, legal or not. As low wage working class blacks are often the first ones displaced by foreign immigrants in many ways. And the relationship hasn't always been good. Many immigrants set up shops, are given loans by the Government, to open up wig and or convient stores in the hood, where as blacks who have been there for generations cannot get such loans. Over time this can build resentment. Go to any hood around the nation, and 99% of all convient stores are owned, ran by, middle eastern immigrants.  And 99% of all beauty shops are ran by immigrant Asians. Asians, Persians, come in and in 10 years do more than many native born black customers do over a life time. This builds underlying resentment in some. Also many immigrants come from societies with very strict social caste systems, and impose those same social caste systems onto U.S. born blacks. In other nations blacks are always at the lowest, bottom spot on the pecking order, always. Only in U.S. are blacks artificially elevated to a high status, but in all other nations around the world, blacks are kept at the bottom and not allowed to participate in Government affairs, accept for in Africa of course. So these immigrants come over to U.S., and it's hard for them to accept that blacks in America actually have rights, and are seen as 'equal'. And this to often causes tension. Blacks have known and felt this for years and as such many have learned to be resentful towards new immigrants who come over and hold nose up to 'blacks'. Elected Democrats ignore this, but Donald Trump is not. So don't be surprised if many U.S. born blacks begin to follow Trump, become fans, and take interest in what he has to say, cause from a black persons point of view, Trump is kind of standing up for them, where as establishment Democrats are not.
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Post by Jupiter on Jul 21, 2015 0:40:34 GMT
Why does all media, including talk radio media, and Fox, always assume that Donald Trumps message only appeals to registered Republicans? Why are people more, always, interested in categories rather than message of the messenger? This idea that only registered Republicans are drawn to Donald Trumps message is absurd. This idea that one can only be a Registered Republican in order to be receptive to Donald Trumps Universal message is absurd. Lot's of people, for their own individual reasons, are drawn to Donald Trumps message, mannerism ect, regardless of their registered political affiliation. And is why I've always found political labels to be self defeating to the citizens, and favorable to those in power. Common sense trumps (no pun intended) political affiliation, sorry but it does. This idea that only Republicans are against illegal immigration, is false! This idea that only Republicans are sick of establishment politicians, is false? Titles often artificially divide people who otherwise totally agree on basic issues. Don't fall for that trap. Don't be held prisoner by whatever political affiliation Government gives you...if someone says something you know to be correct, support them, period. Don't let others hold you hostage to some assigned identity they want you to have. This goes for both Democrats and Republican rank and file. And is one reason why more are registering as Independents. News Flash! There are many on the social 'left' as defined by brain dead talk radio hosts, who support Donald Trump on his issues just as there are some on the right who do. Don't let the media, including talk radio hosts, keep common sense people divided on basic issues that can help us all prosper as a nation.
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Post by Jupiter on Jul 22, 2015 0:09:57 GMT
I'm enjoying watching Trump go after normally stiff necked, slow to respond typical out of reach, out of touch politicians. Almost like a cage match or WCW match. Donald just jumps in the ring and starts tossing them around.  There's just something gratifying and enjoyable about watching Donald Trump get to, get under the skin of politicians most of us never would even be allowed to talk to. Trump carries like the spirit of the common 'man', the type you run in with on the streets, the type most of us work with. Even though he's filthy rich, he still acts like he's from the movie 'The Bronx tale'. I think his appeal goes far beyond talk radio hate monger types, and spills out into everyone. With Donald Trump it's more of a personality thing, and less of a party ideology thing, is why he has such broadening appeal. I hope he continues to rise up in the polls, what do I care. I think he'd even beat Hillary Clinton in a head on Presidential race. But if he does get that far, the one thing you'd have to watch out for is the sore loser syndrome GOP, turning on him, telling voters to stay home, in order to get revenge for Donald Trump up staging them. |
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Post by Jupiter on Nov 12, 2015 1:40:59 GMT
Immigrants more segregationist than whites?From my observation yes. Immigrants stick more to their culture, which sometimes includes color or race, even more so than many native born whites, who use to set the gold standard for racism and racist behavior towards any darker skinned peoples. Even darker skinned immigrants tend to have a very closed culture, and strong traditions they adhere to when it comes to dating, marriage ect. Immigrants don't have same historical history with blacks that whites do, so there is no ground gained with immigrants when they interact with native born blacks. Instead many immigrants import their own brand of caste system, and unless from Africa, blacks are at the bottom of that caste scale in their home nations. Ask any black person who has lived in any area where immigrants take over, and the blacks are the first ones driven away once immigrants get a foothold. So President Obama, who's never lived in poorer blue collar areas, where he had to compete for employment with immigrants, does blacks a big disservice by trying to flood nation with immigrants. Also immigrants segregate when they hire, even worse than whites. Chinese resturants, all Chinese workers, middle eastern retail stores, all they hire is other middle easterners, Asian owned stores only hire Asians. Seems whites are the only ones forced to integrate, that makes no sense and seems unfair. Black democrats who think it's a great idea for Hillary Clinton to flood nation with even more immigrants do so at own demise and peril. Cause as the immigrants move up the social ladder, blacks will be shoved downward, like sediment settling to bottom of land. Immigrants have big advantage over blacks, main advantage, they're not black. Lighter skinned immigrants are able to fit into 'white society' much better, other than first generation language barriers. Immigrants are bi lingual, most native born blacks can barely speak English properly. And most immigrants still believe in two parent households with mom and dad, and strong family structure, so their kids are garrunteed to rise quicker than typical hood welfare inner city blacks, where women have all but rejected the idea of marriage and two parent traditional household. As more and more immigrants flood nation, and blend in easier than blacks, blacks will continue to slide to social bottom, like sediment settling to bottom of tank and or society. 
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Post by Jupiter on Nov 12, 2015 21:39:13 GMT
Does President views and actions hurt or help native born blacks? or those considered as suchPresident seems to be fond of millions of illegal aliens remaining in U.S. Even though on the streets, these illegals have no love, like, for the black folks they live around and or drive out of neighborhoods. Just look at Los Angeles now, where Hispanic gangs have all but driven out all blacks living in Compton, Central, and other areas. They're some of the most racist, violent types ever, yet President wants more of them in nation? Is the President insane?link<<<<Hispanics ethnically cleans blacks from neighborhoods in Los Angeles...Gee, thanks President Obama, many are saying. Then on top of that, President releases 1000's of drug dealers back into urban hood communities. Has the President ever lived next to a drug dealer? Ever seen the types who come around when drug dealers present? I doubt it. Not sure why President thinks hard working blacks want, desire, drug dealers to be re released back into their midst. Is the President insane? What world do they live in? Obviously they don't live out here in the streets, where there's nightly shootings, homicides, for if they did, their attitude on crime and criminals would totally change if it were his own family out here in hood area, he needed to protect.
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Post by Jupiter on Nov 12, 2015 22:02:14 GMT
San Francisco use to be mecca of culture, diversity, love and tolerance, not anymore San Francisco use to be the mecca for the whole peace love and joy culture, the mecca for racial tolerance, the mecca for diversity, not anymore. Now that Hispanics have taken over outlining areas, nothing but hostility, unless Hispanic. Nothing but gang culture, ethnic gang culture, hate and racism, not from whites but from Hispanics. All the good will that city use to be known for, gone. Now just gangs, illegal immigrants, ect. Foreigners don't share, have, same history as fellow Americans do. They have their own struggles, issues, identities. The American civil rights era, which brought so many together, means nothing to them, as they come from nations with own civil rights issues. And 95% of foreigners look down on native born minorities, especially blacks. They come here, to America, and many bring a very mean nasty attitude with them, sure they enjoy the freedom, but seem to resent native born citizens. And many are more racist, more prejudice, than native born whites. And at places of employment ever seem to hire outside of their own culture...yet whites are forced to. You rarely if ever see a black or white or Indian person working at a Chinese store. Oh well. I have no control over any of it. The rich politicians who live separated from reality, and others, are the ones creating this new environment.
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Post by Jupiter on Dec 23, 2015 3:58:38 GMT
Dark skinned blacks who don't like Trump
Can't stand these types, who get put on CNN, NPR ect, who are apart of the 'system', who love saying that Trump is racist.
As a kind of culturally mixed type, I can say without a doubt that the blacks who love calling Trump 'racists' aren't any better, or maybe worse, in how they treat others outside of their own accepted class.
I deal with these Southern dark skinned type of blacks all the time in Carolinas, the SE ect, and there's nothing 'loving' about their spirits, nothing at all.
They're just as sinful and full of faults, prejudice, as any other group of people, and are no more accepting of others, than any other peoples or culture.
I know this first hand, and as such don't think Donald Trump should kiss the butts of these types, who will forever accuse anyone who stands on principle as being 'racist'.
Me being a person of color, will call out a racist in a heart beat, but Trump, nah...flamboyant yet, bratty, spoiled, yes, immature at times, yes, racist, nah.
Even if racist groups attracted to him, doesn't mean Trump is himself racist.
Blacks, whites, men, women, gays, straight, all sorts are attracted to Trump, mainly do to his rigid no back down stance.
People just like, want and desire a strong leader.
Trump attracts odd coalition of supporters.
Certain qualities simply transcend politics and or ideology
Dark skinned blacks who accuse Trump of being racist, in turn, in daily lives, while at work, turn around and negatively prejudge others who are of color, or mixed, who don't fit their ideal or mirror image of what it means to be black.
So I don't want to hear it.
Leave Trump alone.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 6, 2016 2:26:42 GMT
As a person of color, how Trump makes me feel vs traditional, conventional Fox News or talk radio bred conservative
As a person of color Trump makes me feel the following
1. Happy and glad to be an American
2. That he actually likes me 'as is', as long as I strive to be the best I can be
3. That he'd shake my hand if at a rally
4. That I matter
Now how other so called Conservative candidates make me feel in general
1. That they don't like me at all, and only tolerate me barely cause they have to.
And that's about it.
Outside of Trump, the only candidate whom I feel is a person of reason and social tolerance would be John Kasich, the Governor of Ohio.
And maybe Senator Rand Paul.
I mean who would like me 'as is', without having to conform to some fake image.
I could be wrong, but just feel the rest are snobs, who simply need peoples votes and is only reason all out in public now mingling, cause they have to be.
But before they were running for office, most never mingled with anyone in general public, wouldn't dare be seen with anyone in general public, especially Carly Fiorina the corporate head.
Trump has always been a mingler, it's the nature of his business, hotels, buildings, Casinos, and Kasich to, the people of Ohio really seem to like the man.
And Rand Paul, even before election season, years before, was making efforts to reach out more, to mingle, with common people of all stripes..
But the rest seem totally insulated from general public (Ben Carson aside since his job required him to interact with every day people).
I'm sure they're all fine people in their own ways, who am I to judge them, any of them would probably be welcome in Heaven before me in that they've accomplished way more, if that's a criteria.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 11, 2016 23:13:09 GMT
Black Caucus, on the Hill, endorses Hillary Clinton's campaignSay what?!...  As a minority, I think this blind endorsement is ridiculous and silly in the year 2016, just makes no sense to blindly endorse Hillary Clinton as a whole Congressional group. In my opinion, after studying policies of certain candidates, Trump is the one to endorse, as his policies, the ones he wants to implement, would better serve 'black' Americans than Hillary's would. Immigrationa. Hillary has no intention or desire to stop the flood of immigrants coming into nation, legal or illegal, in fact she wants to bring 100's of 1000's more, and by doing so displace blacks from jobs, and communities, and services, that will go towards new immigrants, legal or not, instead of Americans.  This is the side of immigration the Black Caucus doesn't see, or Hillary or Bernie Sanders, but it's the side lower income blacks see and deal with daily, and are terrorized by and displaced from neighborhoods by. b. Donald Trump has made stopping the out of control illegal immigration a priority, how is this not good for lower income blacks already struggling? Trump wants to deport these types and more who are brutalizing blacks, there violence towards blacks is 10's worse than that of the Klan, yet Hillary wants to continue to flood nation with types like above who never assimulate but rather remain loyal to old country blood lines and gang loyalty. Also Hillary has no plan to end bad trade deals which effect blue collar jobs big time, which many blacks need, just like many whites need as well. I could go on and on, bottom line, just not sure why Congressional black caucus insults millennial blacks by blindly supporting Hillary Clinton as President. This is not the 1960's anymore, America faces new issues now, none of which Hillary Clinton has the mindset or understanding to fix. If she becomes President absolutely nothing will change for blacks, nothing, nada, zero, crime will continue, jobs will continue to be lost to over seas companies and to illegal and legal immigrants here at home, which equates into higher unemployment and less opportunity for the 'blacks' she claims to be looking out for. If one earns over $300,000 a year, and is black, than maybe she would make a good symbolic President, other than that, no.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 28, 2016 19:45:47 GMT
CNN/Fox/establishment creatures, all try to now associate Trump with 'The Klan' and think minority Trump supporters stupid enough to not see their slime ball tactics
Sorry, but what's good for America is good for all Americans, regardless of if white or black or in the Klan or apart of the black panthers or gay or straight or a boy scout or girl scout a Gator fan or a Miami State football fan, it doesn't matter!
So this sleazy game the media plays with Trump, or other candidates, holds no water to the thinking.
Like the bible says the sun shines on the weeds as well as the grass.
And no intelligent thinking minority would hold the fact that certain 'racist' groups support Trump, against their own personal support.
I'm sure over the years, and even now, there's many of racist groups, individuals that vote for Democrats and Republicans alike.
Just like there's many radical black or minority groups and or Islamic groups, people, who vote for their choice, but in no way shape or form does that make candidates message null and void.
Many racist like Jesus also, but that doesn't mean the message of Christ is not valid simply cause racist and psychopaths have supported Jesus over the centuries.
Nough said.
The media, those in it, are really foul individuals.
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Post by Jupiter on Mar 6, 2016 3:07:06 GMT
Minorities have zero interests in Ted Cruz, zero, maybe even negative zero
I, myself, as a minority, have zero interest in Ted Cruz, nor have I ever heard anyone else speak in favor of the man as a candidate, or unfavorably, as far as that goes, the guy just doesn't exist to most real day, working class minorities.
The only reason why I even care about the GOP race is do to Trump, I'm a independent, so when Trump first ran he totally appealed to me, and others.
If Ted Cruz were to snake his way to the nomination, he'll get smashed in the general, obliterated by Hillary or another, cause unlike Trump, Cruz has zero, negative zero, cross over appeal.
His type of Conservatism isn't 'fun', or 'entertaining', his type of conservatism, most blacks, minorities, associate with 'racism'.
I've never ever heard Ted Cruz champion any 'black' cause, never.
Rand Paul has or did, Trump has, Ohio Governor has, Ted Cruz, all blacks associate him with is the NRA and Rush Limbaugh and always taking the side of fat mentally ill security guard who took Trayvon Martins life.
Ted Cruz's version of Conservatism is good for him, good for talk radio, good for debating in the back halls of Congress, but his brand of Conservatism has zero appeal to those outside his small niche.
If Ted Cruz wins GOP nomination, I'm done with politics for a long while, I'll have no interest in it after that.
It was Trump who invigorated me, not Cruz.
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Post by Jupiter on Mar 6, 2016 5:24:09 GMT
The only people offended by 'Let's make American great again' slogan, are enemies of the State
Not sure how any honest, nation loving 'black' American can or would take offense to Donald Trump wanting to make nation a great thriving place.
Not sure how a black person living in Detroit, would be offended by Trump wanting to build a wall on southern border?
Not sure how a black American, who wants higher paying job, broader employment opportunities, would be offended by Trump wanting to equalize trade with China and Mexico and other nations 'That are ripping us off'.
Not sure how a black American would be offended by Trump wanting to end sanctuary cities for illegal immigrants who victimize many blacks on the street level with gang warfare, and in fact have displaced many blacks from neighborhoods.
Not sure how any black American would be offended by Trump wanting a stronger military and more precise victories over seas in battle, when many many black Americans serve in the military.
I could go on and on and on, and not sure how any of Trumps plans for nation would 'offend' a working class black person.
The only people Trump offends are those who are to bias to listen, or enemies of the State who don't want to see America strong again cause they know they wouldn't be able to exploit the tax payers anymore.
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Post by Jupiter on Mar 12, 2016 16:45:10 GMT
Totally for Trumps right to present his message to whomever wants to hear itAs a person of color, not sure how other people claim Trump is racist, or uses racist rhetoric? I haven't heard it. Trump is saying 'Lets make America great again'.. He's not saying 'Lets only make white Anglo Saxons great again'...  America, Americans, come in all colors and sizes and ethnic make up, so when Trump says lets make America great again he's obviously speaking about everyone who was born here or immigrated legally. Not sure how that's racist? Every other nation does the same, enforce their borders, only much more strictly. Why is it that only America is suppose to be a dumping ground for all people on the planet, who often bring values with them that are totally contrary to U.S. values. Truth is many of these migrants are more racist, hostile, violent towards 'blacks' or other native born minorities than supposedly whites are. Not sure how either blacks, or people in the LGBTQ community feel it advantageous to their own future prosperity to flood nation with immigrants who despise you, us, them, and whom in home nations 'blacks' and 'LGBTQ' community seen as 5th rate citizens. Yet candidates like Hillary and Bernie practically bend over backwards to accomidate this hostile take over, where non citizens show up to U.S. political rallies and try to squelch the 2nd amendment of citizens to speak. Me personally, I do not want America to begin reflecting the ghettos of the world, the slums, the anarchy of Africa or middle east or south America, and the only way to ensure it doesn't is to elect someone like Trump who will protect the borders and restore national pride for all Americans, regardless of color or orientation or even political leaning. Trumps policies will positively shine and benefit the smart and the stupid equally.
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Post by Jupiter on Mar 13, 2016 22:48:53 GMT
Wish people would get off of this comparing every President they don't like to Hitler I mean seems every President since Reagan, both Democrat and Republican, black and white, has been Hitler.
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