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Post by Jupiter on Jan 5, 2021 0:50:27 GMT
Could I just ever be openly outright 'gay' or 'lesbian' or ect? Let this mind discussion begin...ready, mark, go...
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Post by Jupiter on Jan 5, 2021 1:06:40 GMT
Could I ever just be outright and openly 'gay' or 'lesbian'? Very complex but yet also simple answer. There's a yes and no to that depending on 'definitions'. If to 'you' gay or lesbian simply means wild sex with no emotional attatchment, than no, I could never be that. But if to you, gay or lesbian means simply pairing with someone of your same gender where child rearing is not primary function, than ye, possibly. It all really comes down to taste values and personal needs I suppose. Take me for example...I like opposites, in other words if I'm the King, than you must be the Kong, or if I'm the Kong you must be the King...I like opposite dynamics. If I'm ugly, you must be cute, I'm I'm tough, you must be soft, regardless of your gender. I like and value balance. I cannot date a woman who looks, acts, more tough than me. I think truly 'Homosexual' types like that though, is why you'll often see two bearded men kissing who are like twins of one another...that does nothing for me personally. But now if bearded man kissing some soft tender younger guy, than ye, cause I could then relate to the distinction in roles and behavior. With me it's about balance. I could possibly be 'gay' but only if guy submitting to was taller than I, rougher than me, yet gentle on the inside when it came to romance and manners, a protector basically. I could be more fem, or flat out 'fem', but only if guy I was with gave me the confidence to be such. (That applies to both males, females ect, regardless of orientation) But then again, if male attracted to was a soft fluff cake cutie pie, than I'd have no problem being the 'rough, in charge one'. It's all about balance to me. Nature always seeks a balance, regardless of gender or orientation. So ye, if say I met younger cute guy, who was fem, and we got along, I'd might be willing to form relationship with them, or say if met some super tough, tall, huge guy who was strong physically and or mentally, than ye, maybe I could be their princess... But since neither case likely to occur, I just write about it instead. Or if I ever met fertile woman, who was attracted to me and me to them, than I'd gladly play the 'hetero' male Father role. But since none of the above likely to occur, I simply write about it for others to think about in their own lives.
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Post by Jupiter on Jan 5, 2021 11:13:45 GMT
Another thing that has always turned me off from more seriously persuing the 'LGBTQ' route is the public websites and how utterly 'filthy' they are or use to be.
This idea that if 'gay' ect, you have to surrender your values at the door, just always seemed absurd to me.
Years ago I'd visit 'gay' websites and it was like pure porn in your face....I'm talking relationship type sites...seems guys were just interested in showing off the size of their hoses, and could care the less about forming deeper relationships...all of that just turned me off.
And it was the same way on C/L, where mainly straight by day, bi-sexual by night men would post very graphic adds, and who they wanted to meet up with and do what with them or have done to themselves.
And I was like 'so this is all being gay is about is fulfilling hidden lusts within?'.
I mean I wouldn't even want to be in a hetero relationship if that's all it was about.
So ye, my impression of the gay community in the past was simply one of filth, not do to being gay, but how gay sites portrayed gay/lesbian or even trans people, made it seem they were always hungry for sex, and didn't care much about anything else.
Just like trans, the only time you see trans online is if they're playing the role of some 'slutty' woman trying to please a man.
And I'm certain not every tran is like that, certain most aren't, but whenever there's a 'trans site', they'e simply portrayed as sex starved people wanting to please their former gender.
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But as I get older now, and realize there's a real possibility I won't meet that 'one and only special lady' (who also has to like me back), the more I realize that may not happen, the more I just start exploring other things in my mind.
I have liked and adored certain women my whole life and it has gotten me absolutely nowhere, haven't been in any type of relationship in over a decade, that makes for a lonely life after a while.
And then you break it down even further in that if I were gay, I wouldn't be attracted to just any ole type of guy. I'm attracted to slender elegance, regardless of gender, first and foremost.
But like just some average construction worker looking type of person, no, male or female.
Like today while at corner store, some mountain women from like South America was in line, short, wide, and looked way to husky for my taste, they were huskier than me, they were female, but to me female only in gender, nothing about them turned me on at all.
But then again, women from that part of the world have to be more 'hardy', they have to work in the fields, slaughter live stock, gut the fish and all, so of course they don't walk around with make up and wearing heals as if from Beverly Hills.
That slender, clean, elegant, female look is kind of a modern invention of the west, where women of privilege could afford to stay home and just focus on looking good as the man went out to work.
And so that's kind of become the standard of how females should look everywhere.
And I'm just the type that if I were ever to fall for another 'guy' they'd have to be soft, slender and elegant, not neccesarily feminine, but elegant, 'male soft', cute, ect.
Either that or they'd have to be like ultra large and masculine so that I could feel 'soft' around them.
I just believe in opposites, that's what turns me on is opposites.
But like when I see two bearded men kissing, heck no!
I think that's when one is truly gay is when they're attracted to that which looks and is built just like them. Where as others, although attracted to same sex at times, I think it's cause they see reflections of something more in the one they're attracted to other than just their gender.
Sexuality has and always will be a very complex thing, cause no two people really have the same standards when it comes to beauty or what they're attracted to.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 1, 2021 13:16:42 GMT
If I could meet someone like this, I wouldn't care what gender they were Yes, if I could meet someone like this, I wouldn't care what gender they were, cause it would be their inner spirit that really more attracted to, but in the case of the person above what I like about their outer spirit is.. 1. Slender, I love tall, or proportioned tall, lanky appearing frames (I guess cause I sorta have one myself), just not into thick, heavy and wide. 2. Playfulness, I love people who are playful well into adulthood, adults who stop playing or lose their playful spirits are duds and no fun to be around and will pull you emotionally down. 3. The above person is not only sexy to me, but they're 'brown', meaning if one is brown, they understand, have been to the depths of social rejection, and if still can be happy and joyful, that makes them even more special to me, and on top of that to not follow stereotypes set for them by society, even better, tells me they're a independent thinker and soul. 4. And I just kind of like that Androgynous look, that look where gender doesn't really matter, to me nice kind and beautiful is nice kind and beautiful. That being said if two equally qualified people came to me and I had to pair with one, and say one was a male, the other female, and they were equal to me in attractive qualities, I'd pick the female, why?...cause the female can or could, or could have given me a family, where as no matter how adorable and cute the male was, no family of my own possible unless adoption, but unless very wealthy, forget about that option. But I'm older now, so doubt will meet a woman who'd ever want to have my 'kid' or 'kids', so that being said if two equally qualified people that I was attracted to came to me and I had to chose one, I wouldn't, I'd chose them both..LOL..one would be my wife or girlfriend, the other would be my friend and we'd have fun together, laugh and go on vacations.. (Ye right, what a fantacy world that would be). And by the way, the above person is 'me'...at least I think it is. It's the spirit inside of me that I musn't ever allow to die or fade, but it only comes out in 'art'. In real life, if saw me at work or walking down the street, not in a million years would 'you' ever imagine I was so broad on the inside, and that's what makes it so fun.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 7, 2021 21:56:29 GMT
When women look like this, are this large and 'butch', and drive Masculine cars, it almost makes me want to be gay Sorry, but as a male of color, because people of color are so vastly different from one another, from 'black' to mixed, to foreign to whatever, to class, to education level and more, because of that tastes very widely among 'black' males or those considered as such. And to me, linebacker football sized urban females who look like men with make up on or men in drag, with features larger than my own, I'm just not attracted to that, not in a romantic since anyways. And where I stay, this is what you see is these large football linebacker built females, angry as hell, driving around in muscle cars that where I came from it's the men who use to drive the hot rods, but in urban areas it's these masculated urban females more likely than not to be driving the muscle cars. Now maybe some males attracted to that, but I'm not, not in a romantic sense, and could never date such a woman, and can only imagine how much of an impossible attitude they have to get along with, the artificial pride (but in fairness I guess everyone has artificial pride), the quickness to curse you out, and call you ugly names and more. Why would I want that in my life? Most men don't, is why so many of these urban 'Butch' black females are turning Lesbian, they have their 'child' early on by male breeder, then boot him out of their life and seek out submissive female to partner with, I'm seeing this more and more and even live around it. Just not down for this type of 'culture' if you want to call it that. I still think women should be more petite than myself, at least if they want me to be attracted to them, and if not, doesn't mean I'm gay, just means I'm not romantically attracted to women whom younger thin males look more feminane than...if anything it means I'm Hetero in that I'm turned on by the whole opposite dynamic.
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Post by Jupiter on May 9, 2021 6:55:03 GMT
The reason why 'same sex' dating sites pitched as 'sleazy' hook up sites is cause they're usually ran, created by sleaze ball perverted heterosexual types who love to exploit 'love and romance'!
It sickens me that when it comes to 'same sex dating sites' that they're always pitched as 'adult sleaze sites' instead of as sites where legit, grown, mature, adults want to meet others of the same sex or transgender or this or that.
The whole 'sleaze factor' thing is what turns so many off.
Just because someone may be interested in 'same sex' or cross sex or this or that, doesn't mean they have a dirty mind!!
It's hetero types who exploit that idea and keep LGBTQ types in the gutter!
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Post by Jupiter on Jul 19, 2021 20:38:58 GMT
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Post by Jupiter on Nov 10, 2021 15:09:45 GMT
Could I ever be openly and out and right 'gay'?
Interesting question.
first off, usually when I like someone I never initially approach it in my mind of whether me liking them will lead to me wanting to physically get romantic with them.
And just cause I think someone is attractive to me, obviously doesn't mean we're going to end up in bed together, if that were the cause I'd have slept with over 20,000 people in my lifetime.
So maybe a better question is is if stuck on Island with someone of same gender whom was attracted to, and them to you, could things, would you allow things, to get physically romantic?
And again, who knows and it depends, tastes very so much, some gay guys like softer, younger, think, smooth, twinkish looking fellas, other gay guys like hulky, muscular, or hairy types, others like fat types, and so forth.
And just cause you're attracted to another doesn't mean they're attracted back, just like male female dynamic.
You can be attracted to Susy all you want, but if Susy doesn't find you attractive back, oh well, although with women, the don't sum guys up in the same way, if a millionaire, Susy more likely to over look your physical traits, where as men, males, go by looks, no matter what.
You rarely see a male marry a ugly women, but always see women marry ugly men.
Anyways, I was all over the map here.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 13, 2022 23:47:39 GMT
I don't know what this is I don't know if this is a male or female or a horse, I just don't know. I mean to me if a roach could transform into a human, well. Not trying to be mean, just honest. I think many other people do find them attractive, is why they're a celebrity, but me, nah. And no, it's not do to color, hell I'm a person of color, there's billions of people of color on this planet who cannot relate to this image. Face, bright red lipstick ect, just looks odd. Looks like a cartoon face with flesh on it, but hey, they're famous, they're making money off of their looks and talent, and I am not, so who am I to talk.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 13, 2022 23:52:00 GMT
I don't know what this is I don't know if this is a male or female or a horse, I just don't know. I mean to me if a roach could transform into a human, well. Not trying to be mean, just honest. I think many other people do find them attractive, is why they're a celebrity, but me, nah. And no, it's not do to color, hell I'm a person of color, there's billions of people of color on this planet who cannot relate to this image. Face, bright red lipstick ect, just looks odd. Looks like a cartoon face with flesh on it, but hey, they're famous, they're making money off of their looks and talent, and I am not, so who am I to talk.
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Post by Jupiter on Feb 13, 2022 23:54:09 GMT
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Post by Jupiter on Mar 8, 2022 3:36:34 GMT
I think I could openly be LGBTQ if person I was with made me feel totally secure in self, as in totally loved, and or if person I was falling for was so very attractive to me, than yes, I probably could, but sadly that will never happen
The people that I could be openly LGBTQ for, would never fall for me, so it'll never happen. I just don't frequent the right social circles I guess.
I live in a lower working class area, with a bit of hood element mixed in, as such everyone seems totally 'traditional', blue collar, urban, ect. I'm just socially isolated.
I mean I could be openly LGBTQ if person I fell for or who fell for me...wait let me do it in list form.
1. I could openly LGBTQ if person I was with made me feel adorable and special, and loved, they'd have to be very mature though, and not some closeted iffy type who likes you one day then runs from you the next.
2. If I were the one falling for another, they'd have to totally light up my soul so that when around them I wouldn't even think of our relationship in terms of gay or straight, but rather in terms of 'gee, what a wonderfully attractive person who I get along with and who gets along with me as well'. But again, at least with me, that will never happen cause those I would like, physically, would never like me back the same way, or would never think I have the depth that I do.
I think when in love with another, you know it's really love, when you don't even think of yourselves as 'gay' or 'Lesbian', you don't even think in those terms when in love with someone of your same gender. Rather you think more in terms of companionship and how can 'I' make their life better, easier.
Love like erases gender, color, and more, when in that zone.
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Post by Jupiter on Jul 5, 2022 14:53:02 GMT
Also, I think people, the casual public, they get gay, or LGBTQ 'porn', confused with actual LGBTQ love relationships.
So when you here like Conservatives say 'The gay lifestyle', they're referring to the images they see on porn sites, and equate that to day to day lovers of the same sex.
That would be like a gay person assuming that what they see on hetero adult sites is standard behavior for hetero relationships.
It's not, porn is porn, and is seperete from actual loving relationships between two adults.
Seems simple enough, but sadly most people can't distinquish the two.
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Post by Jupiter on Apr 14, 2023 2:32:01 GMT
I'm at a point in my life where I think I simply like who ever likes me back....regardless their gender. I mean if pro-creating isn't apart of the relationship, than does it really matter? I mean I understand the male/female dynamic, if trying to raise a family, but what if you're beyond that or can't? Then what, suppose to wait around for someone from your same gender to magically fall for you? Well what if they don't, and won't, and never will? Then what, suppose to stay home alone forever, just to appease some Pastor who has all their needs met? I'd rather be with some same gendered person, whom I found attractive, on many different levels, and them me, than to just spend the rest of my life alone, just to appease some Pastor who either way could give a squat about my emotional well being, and or even fiscal well being.
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Post by Jupiter on Apr 14, 2023 2:41:11 GMT
Sometimes people are gay, or turn gay, or stop caring what they are, if and when the opposite gender doesn't like them I don't know how to be the person the opposite sex thinks I should be, I only know how to be me. There's so much more to same sex attraction than the type of stuff you used to see on Craigslist, most of those types were just out and right freaks, bi-sexuals who couldn't wait for their spouse to leave the house, so they could live out their whatever on some stranger on C/L. Those freaks aside, same gender attraction is about emotional relationship, with all the complexities of any other relationship. You can't just throw a woman in front of a man and say 'OK, you to get along and date', and or vice versa...it doesn't work that way all the time.
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